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What Do You Wish Was In the Borders Storefront?

The former location of the Borders Books has been empty since summer. We're open to opinions for what should go inside.

 

The economy is tough on everyone, and some businesses—whether they aren't moving enough product, rent is too high or their business model no longer works—have pulled out of Rancho Santa Margarita.

Still, a number of businesses have moved in, including the newly-opened Embarcadero restaurant and Togo's.

In a periodic feature, Patch is asking the community to throw ideas at a storefront. Who knows, maybe something will stick. Maybe there's an idea out there that needs to be nurtured. Tell the community what you'd like to see in a particular location, what works and what doesn't, and why your idea has merit.

We kick off with the former location of Borders Bookstore, which filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy and closed over the summer to the chagrin of booklovers. There's still something about having a place to go and leisurely check things out and turn actual pages instead of clicking on icons, but you can't do that anymore at 22372 El Paseo.

Paul Boyer, the city's administrative services director, said it's regrettable anytime a business is forced to close, "and it's more regrettable to lose the only business that fills a particular void."

There are a number of eating establishments nearby, including Wood Ranch BBQ and Grill, Cinnamon Productions and Cold Stone Creamery, as well as a spa, Spa Gregories.

So what ideas do you have for bringing in another business to fill the Borders Books storefront? What fits in that location?

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Nancy Thompson

4:24 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012

something for the kids like a small Nickle Nickle would be great in the old Borders shop
Corky's in the old Ruby's and a SMART & FINAL please :))))))))

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JLS

9:01 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012

Wow! The above suggestions would be horrible for sustaining property values!!! And, as is, RSM is obnoxiously full of supermarkets, eateries and restaurants! How about some fun shopping for a change?!??

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JLS

9:06 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012

A Nordstrom Rack would be nice in the former Borders location and a Cost-Co in the old car dealership vicinity would be highly convenient! I greatly miss the Marshalls that once was also!

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Kathyh

7:08 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

A Barnes and Noble would be great. I really miss Borders!

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SSA

7:17 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

I really miss Borders, too! We used to go every week and let our kids get a new book. We were going to a birthday party last week and our son wanted to get a few Roald Dahl books for the birthday boy and we had to drive all the way to Aliso Viejo to get them!

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Kathyh

7:38 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

^ i agree. My daughter needed a book last night for school and we had to drive to The Spectrum. I hope RSM looks into a Barnes and Noble.

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Marilyn

7:45 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Home Goods store would be nice. We need a Costco out in this area. Good suggestion about converting car dealership to one.

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JB

8:06 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

I agree with JLS those are horrible choices. Has anyone else noticed there is a Walmart grocery store going in where Circuit City was. Between that and Big Lots I feel like we have moved to slums. When did we become Santa Ana.

That being said, we would love a Barnes and Noble. Just think about all the traffic a Costco would bring.

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Gary

1:10 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Walmart, I wish not. Better yet, I Ya', followed by it failing big and and failing soon. I refuse to support Walmart post the Made In America lies they told for many-many years. They played on US citizens' patriotism through lies and misrepresentation for the sole purpose of lining their own pockets. I prefer to shop at stores with greater integrity.

Christine

8:09 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Love the idea of having a Costco in the Old Car Dealership and as for the Borders location, that might seem totally off the wall - a bowling alley

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Rocko

9:07 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

You won't see a Costco in the car dealership, EVER. Our city council has rezoned that parcel for car dealers only. What happened to a owners property rights? The Nissan owner has had many offers that wanted to fill that space. Our city council is holding out for another car dealer because the taxes generated is much needed. Good luck with that!

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camille

9:28 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Here is a list of businesses I would like to see in RSM. Whole Foods, Costco and In N Out. I also like the idea of more shopping like, Nordstrom Rack or Macy's.

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CV Mom

9:14 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Whole Foods would be spectacular!!

Yvonne

9:46 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Costco won't go into the car dealership because they require 15 acres.

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jim

10:05 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

This question was , what business should go in the old Borders store. I think the Barnes and Noble store is a great idea! We use to go into Borders while waiting for a table at Wood Ranch and usually buy something. We also used it monthly to buy books that my kids couldn't get at the library. Borders is very much missed and I hear that all the time from others. Now we have to drive to Aliso Viejo or The Spectrum.

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Janet Whitcomb

10:46 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Definitely another book store. The location is ideal, being adjacent a number of restaurants and also close to the library. As many folks know, Borders and the library and its Friends of the Library Bookstore had a kinetic relationship, since each would recommend the other when a particular title wasn't available.
I've shopped online for books but I much prefer a bricks-and-mortar bookstore. And I think most people who truly love books and reading would agree. Since the demise of Borders—a case of corporate stupidity which not only let down its client base, but its employees as well—I’ve driven over to Aliso Viejo's Barnes & Noble a couple of times. But only if I'm in that particular neighborhood for some other reason, since it typically is out of my way. The importance of our community—or ANY community—having a conveniently located bookstore that also sponsors children’s story times, book clubs, author signings, and other reading-oriented events cannot, in my opinion, be overestimated!

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Sharon Thompson

10:46 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

A store many may not be familiar with: Hobby Lobby. There is a HL opening in Laguna Niguel this summer at Alicia and Heather Ridge, near Walmart and Costco. Hobby Lobby opened last October in Temecula and is worth a drive over the hill to check it out. Fabulous stores - think of JoAnn, Michael's, A Scrapbooking Store, artworks, home decor, beautiful pieces of accent furniture, etc, party supplies, cards and so on. I don't think the Borders store is large enough but the combined Linens 'n Things and Circuit City space together would be adequate I believe. I am going to Vegas in 2 weeks and at the top of my to-do list is Hobby Lobby! These stores meet so many needs at so many levels and are an experience. I do not work for or have a financial interest in Hobby Lobby, other than spending my money! This stores offers a diverse stock which is attractive to so many...............check them out, RSM. I had not heard about a Walmart Grocery in the old Circuit City building but agree with other posts that we have plenty of places to buy groceries.

RSM: will you publicize the sum of opinions at some point? Thank you.

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D. Finnegan

7:27 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

I like the idea of a "mini" Michael's or Jo-Ann's type store. What about a quality florist?

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April Josephson

10:09 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

D. and Sharon, I agree. If we can't have a bookstore, these would be great additions to RSM.

Kevin

10:47 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Lets be real people, there is no new dealership coming in the near future and as for re-zoning it can be done. I am not sure for a costco because of the size of the parcel there.This is what they are currently trying to do in the foothill area to convert the land slated for dealers to housing. Whole foods would be great or Barnes & noble and defenitley I like a cork'y type eatert in the old Ruby's

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Sharon Thompson

10:49 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Me again: I agree with Nancy Thompson (no relation). A Corky's in the Ruby's location would be outstanding! Corky's in Ladera is the very best place in the area for a great meal, at a reasonable price, that absolutely has something on the menu for every taste. Yummmmmmmm........

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April Josephson

11:20 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

I agree about a Corky's. I'd love to see a 24-hour place and another family friendly restaurant in RSM. The only place large enough for a Costco would potentially be Chiquita Ridge. The Nissan Dealership should be a complementary use to the adjacent auto dealers. If we don't do something to encourage such usage, we run the risk of losing the other dealers, and we'll have what Foothill Ranch has, a failed auto center that they are looking to turn into housing. Losing that sales tax revenue from the dealers will hurt our city budget. We will also be changing the character of our master planned community.

I'm not happy about the planned Walmart grocery next Big Lot's either. We don't need yet another competitor for cheap groceries, with similar selection. For the Borders location, I favor Mother's Market or Whole Foods. They provide a selection of items not currently found in RSM. I currently spend my money outside of town to buy many of my groceries. They also have restaurants that are different from what we have now.

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CDC

1:42 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

I disagree with Corky's. The amount of food is ridiculous and contributes to obesity. They could maintain the cheap prices of their food and serve half of the dish leaving customers just as satisfied and 10 pounds less of fat per year. This community needs healthier choices in eating and additional grocery stores that sell organic and locally grown foods.

Gary

12:06 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

There really are no adult night-time activities venues other than movies and a few sports bars. What this town need is an activities facility for adults in the evening with the potential of being youth facility by day and/or week night. Maybe a bar/dance facility hosting different forms of music on different evenings. Country, Jazz and Rock, each having a different night of the week. Face it, there is little night activities in this town for persons of any age, especially adults/parents. Would't it be nice to be able to go out with your spouse for activities other than a movie, knowing you are only a mile or so away from your kids/home.
During the week, let the youth use it until 10pm with music of their choosing. Providing a a place to study by day, and musical entertainment by night. Keep the youth in our own neighborhood where its only a short dive or walk. Why force them to drive 30+ miles at night when they are safer here near home. A facility of this nature youth would get them off the street and reduce creation other forms of entertainment, forms which may be detrimental to the community and/or illegal by law.

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VICF

1:42 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Something for the kids! Wal-mart? Seriously? Like we need more stores like that. This is a family oriented city. How about a roller skating rink?

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Nancy Thompson

3:01 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

roller rink would be great in the old Kmart off the toll road that has been vacant for YEARS, dont know if its in rsm of not though
if you don't have teenagers yet you might not understand that NOT haveing some place for them to "hang out" at is not good! the lake, parking lots, behind the shopping centers becomes "their" place
they don't drive and have money to spend, the 2 added together makes sense to me
smart & final in the auto dealership would fit :)))
no wal-mart in best buy, no whole foods, sprouts or any other food stores please

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April Josephson

4:26 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

A roller rink at the old K-Mart is a great idea. That property is in Mission Viejo, but I've heard they still have a lot of issues with it. I hate to see anything that large sit around unused for as long as it has been...

Nancy Thompson

3:02 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

sure hope the city does take into consideration what the citizens are asking for, a study would be great to post on line to see the most favorite :)

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Sharon Thompson

3:57 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Will we all get to go to the CIty Council meeting when this is on the agenda? There are some very good ideas here. A Costco somewhere nearby would be one of the best things for this area. However, it is my understanding that space required for a Costco is not available anywhere in this general area. I'm still voting for Corky's in the old Ruby's! What can the City of RSM and the property owners do to make Corky's an offer that can't be refused?

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John

4:12 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

I think it would be a great location for a church.

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April Josephson

4:23 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Nancy and Sharon, it won't be on a council agenda, as the city has no say-so over what goes into the Borders location, other than to follow the law. The landlord is the one to contact with your ideas and suggestions. As a matter of fact, the landlord worked with the city to pre-emptively obtain a Conditional Use Permit for the sale of alcohol in that location several months ago. They brought it before the planning commission stating that they had two potential tenants, both of whom would want it, and both of whom indicated that they wanted to see the permit in the landlord's hands before negotiating further for the property. The proposed uses were along the lines of a BevMo, or along the lines of a Fresh and Easy. The planning commission approved the application, so the location is ready for this type of tenant now.

Rather than it be one of those two companies, I continue to hope that it might be Mother's Market so I don't have to drive to Laguna Woods for my healthy foods or healthy food restaurant.

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Yvonne

4:59 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

So I'm guessing that the city had no say -so over Big Lots or Walmart coming in - it's up to the landlord who they bring in - as long as it's zoned correctly.
I remember Ranch House Meats - the landlord wouldn't work with them on rent or add it to the back on the contract. Sounds like the landlords don't care what they put up here.

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April Josephson

5:59 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

You got it, Yvonne. That was one of the biggest issues we tried to come to terms with on the city's Economic Development Committee Business Growth and Retention Working Group. Some landlords didn't care about current tenants or residents, as long as they got money from new tenants. What happened to Ranch House Meats happened to others around town. We tried to be creative, but there's only so much that could be done by anyone other than the landlord.

My understanding regarding Walmart is that it is supposed to be groceries only. That is a fully-permitted use, although I find it far from the best use. Do we really need more of the same groceries next to Big Lots, and across the street from Target, Trader Joe's, and even Walgreens?

At least with my wishful thinking for a Mother's, the majority of the items would be different, and they have a restaurant with an unusual menu.

RSM Dad

6:08 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Yvonne you hit the nail on the head. In spite of all the naysayers trying to blame the city for problems the businesses are having, 95% of the problem is the landlords. The city has no say in private lease transactions. These naysayers however are just those posturing for their own political self interest. Also, if a new business such as Big Lots wants to come into a center that allows that use under the zoning law, then the city cannot prevent it unless they change the zoning. And that would be considered unfriendly to business to do that. The issue is the landlords, not te city. As far as the Borders location, I would like to see another bookstore back in there.

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RSM WATCHDOG

7:12 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

The city officials changed the zoning at the Nissan building so LA Fitness could not buy the building. Do you consider that to be unfriendly to business? I do. What happened to property rights of an individual?

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April Josephson

7:28 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

The decision to put the auto zone overlay in the area that included the Nissan building was a very smart decision for long-term planning in RSM. As I mentioned before, if a compatible usage isn't put into that building, then we risk losing the remaining dealers, which bring significant sales tax revenue to the city. How much revenue would LA Fitness bring? Additionally, it maintains the integrity of our planned community.

There's another LA Fitness three miles down the road. I found it very easy to get to when I was a member. Rancho already has 24-Hour Fitness, Gold's Gym, Curves, multiple Pilates studios, etc.

If you thought that was a problem, did you speak against it when it was up for consideration by the city?

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CV Mom

8:14 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

I agree, the issue is with the Landlords. We had friends who owned the pizza place by the Edwards theater. The rent...take a guess?? $5,000/month!!! And that particular area is CHEAPER than the Pavillions center!! The Landlord owns both plazas. You'd think he'd be hurting financially, but not with the tax laws! He claims all those empty spaces as a loss, so why would he even think about lowering his rent prices?? They asked, he said NO. Essentially, with that rent and their home rent, they couldn't afford to keep the place nor stay here. They moved their business to another city. So sad.

RSM WATCHDOG

8:02 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

For the city to come in after Nissan has moved and then change the zoning is wrong. They should of had the overlay in place when the building was originally bought. It is wrong for the city to change the rules after investors spent millions of dollars on a building. How much tax revenue has been generated in the last few years? NONE!

You can keep hoping for another car dealer to come to town. You may be waiting for a while. Was this one of the bright idea's from the failed economic committee you were on?

Property rights should be protected for all. Shame on our city leaders for this vote.

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J.P.

5:08 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

I love living in RSM, mostly because it is a planned community where everything has a place. One of the key reasons I moved here was because I was tired of living in an older big city where unchecked development had occurred for years and resulted in a mish-mash of urban sprawl. I don't want to see that happen here. I agree property rights should be protected, but not at the expense of all the residents who purchased their homes here based on the expectation and understanding they were moving into a planned community.

RSM Dad

8:11 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

So Watchdog, based on your logic, then maybe there shouldn't be any zoning requirements in the city? Anybody can put in any business they want anywhere? How about adult book stores or marijuana stores on every corner? How about a supermarket in the middle of Dove Canyon? How about a adult topless bar next to each school? Should I go on?

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Yvonne

8:17 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

And how much tax revenue would the LA Fitness provide to the City? If the economy gets worse - the first thing people are going to give up are the fitness membership. How many fitness places does a City like RSM need? Just like how many more grocery stores.
But back to the original question - perhaps the landlord will read this and get a Barnes and Noble at the Border spot.

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April Josephson

8:36 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

A lot of people would like to see another bookstore, including me. But with Barnes and Noble moving online and independent bookstores closing left and right, what is the likelihood that any bookstore would consider moving into a space that large in RSM?

JLS

8:33 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

WalMart Market is "GHETTO!" How terribly, terribly disappointing. Another place to get liquor and junk food. What a waste of retail space. Give us people of RSM SOMETHING TO DO-
besides contribute to obesity.

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JLS

8:38 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Quit feeding RSM. GIVE US SOMETHING TO DO!!!! Shopping, a book store, etc. WalMart market in addition to Ralph's, Pavilions,Trader Joes, Albertsons AND Target?!?!

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Sharon Thompson

11:19 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

I keep thinking about this. A nice neighborhood bookstore, a coffee bar during the day, wine bar added at night for "Adults Only". A little Jazz Band............relaxing, oh yeah! A place to end the evening after a great dinner at Wood Ranch? But, as others have stated: No WalMart Grocery! What could they possibly add that we don't already have here in RSM? It would be unusual for the property owner/mgr to listen to the people who actually live here but could it happen? Let's hope so. We are afterall, the ones who will spend our money, OR NOT, at whatever goes in that space.

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Gary

9:05 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

While I concur with over 21 activities venue (see my earlier post), I feel we have enough coffee shops and if you have not been to Amazing Grapes, they have a wine bar, plus Jazz (I think Jazz only) every weekend. But these other venues do not take away from my wish for a full sized establishment that caters to many forms of musical and other over-21 activities.

I wish I had the financial resources to establish a facility of this nature, I'd be drawing up the plans right now rather than posting my dreams.

Rebecca Goddard

2:25 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

LA FItness at the Nissan Dealership or a Crunch Fitness.

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CV Mom

8:04 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

So sad Borders is gone, Barnes & Noble for sure! Michael's or Joann's would be great, but dangerous for my pocketbook! ;-)

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Nancy Thompson

4:34 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

wow lots of good ideas listed above and after reading them all here are some of my comments
teenagers dont have anything to do out here!
we dont need any more food stores
we dont need any more stuff stores
corkys in rubys
costco is suppose to be coming off antonio but not for awhile
the revenu genterated by a dealership is huge but likely?
why do you think very few of the restaurants with bars dont stay open till 2 am? probably not enough customers, this is a bedroom community guys not newport beach or downtown orange
as far as the landlords are concerned it does seem they dont care, I can only speak for my landlord, who was willing to work with us on our rent, dont think they get a "tax" break for vacant spaces though, taxes for them are huge and they are in business of making money in the long run (not to defend them) our prices per square foot are not really out of bounds with the rest of south orange county
so I still support Corkys, something for the teenagers, no more food stores or bars
maybe a mimis???\

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CV Mom

5:58 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

I don't think they necessarily get a "tax break" per se, but by claiming the empty spaces as "losses" it reduces their gross income and taxable income, which could ultimately end up with them getting a refund...especially with all the empty store fronts in the centers around here. Why negotiate a lower rent if you can claim a loss and possibly get a refund?! Really sucks for the Mom & Pop shops. :-/

Nancy Thompson

4:35 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

and why cant we go to these businesses and ask them to come to our community????

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Brad McGirr

7:34 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Hi Nancy, great idea. Actually, it happens more than people think. I won't mention the names of the businesses, but I have personally spoken business owners about opening franchises in RSM, and have spoken to two RSM business owners about moving to more desirable locations. Others have done the same.
The city has very little influence on what businesses come to town. Zoning issues aside, the biggest hangup is always the landlord. The land owner really couldn't care less about what RSM wants, but only cares about the rent being paid. I was very surprised to learn that landlords often make more money keeping the property vacant rather than accepting a lower rent offer.
Nonetheless, the efforts continue...we were very close to replacing Borders a number of months ago. I would love to see business owners in town reach out to other business that might not be a competitor, but would be symbionic and offer goods or services that would not only be welcomed by the residents, but would benefit all the businesses in the area (e.g., Fitness club > Health Foods).
And as far as a place for teens, Cinepolis will be opening by summer. I think the best thing for the teens would to get businesses here that can provide jobs. The last thing I want is another establishment like "Howie's Game Shack" at the Kaleidoscope. It was designed for teens, but has become a big draw for a bad element.
By the way, my personal vote for Ruby's would be a Mimi's Cafe.

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April Josephson

9:00 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Brad, you beat me to a response... Nancy's idea is a very good one, and has proven successful in the past. We've both spoken to business owners about moving to RSM and/or moving to more desirable locations, and I know that others have too. IMO, it may be one of the better ideas out there to lure compatible businesses here.

I spoke with Nancy briefly at a recent chamber event. It sounded to me like her center owner is more understanding than many landlords in RSM. There are at least two retail center landlords in town that I've personally heard state that they won't rent at all, and are content to leave empty storefronts, rather than take a lower rate than their asking price. Their reasoning was that they have large portfolios of properties and have accounted for a percentage of empty units. The losses on those, as mentioned by CV Mom, offset their profits, which reduces their net taxable income. To me that says a lot about what type of landlord they will be to the actual tenants :(

I vote yes on Mimi's too!

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Martin Henderson

7:46 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

There are a lot of great ideas here (and maybe what we'll do is create a poll with some of the most popular ideas), but you guys are getting ahead of yourselves: We'll get to the Ruby's location in this series of conversations (maybe we'll do that one next?).

In a previous discussion elsewhere on the site, a reader suggested filling Borders with a really cool BMX store for mountain biking and snowboarding equipment and whatnot; she said it would appeal to her son and it was in fact his idea.

Another reader took the changing landscape of the city into consideration saying that with Cinepolis (a largely adult-oriented venue) replacing Edwards, it would be great to have a place to drop off the kids while the adults go to a movie. Are there establishments that would fit in Borders that would fill that hole in the community? One reader suggested Indoor Laser Tag; I don't know if it could be supported because it seems like such a niche deal, but it's the kind of thinking that spurs on other ideas, which is what this feature is about. Ask your kids what they would put in a large storefront such as Borders -- they have (your) money to spend too.

Also, a local artist suggested to me that perhaps a gallery would be a nice fit in the Borders location. What do you think of that? Would you support a gallery?

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Nancy Thompson

8:42 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

WOW how nice to have a discussion that doesn't involve politics!!!

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Brad McGirr

9:06 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

LOL! I couldn't agree with you more Nancy! It seems that there are two subjects that bring the worse out in those who choose to comment; politics and schools. I think that my first blog on civility in political discourse either fell on deaf ears or I am a bit naive. I look forward to meeting you some day soon!

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April Josephson

9:18 am on Friday, February 3, 2012

Well said. It just goes to show how many people truly care about RSM and continuing the vision started by Richard Reese. Even those that disagree have done so civilly.

Brad, in general I think it is a little bit of both, although I would never consider you naive—probably more hopeful that people would recognize that RSM is the special place we have known and loved for years because it wasn't about the politics.

JD

1:57 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Ms. April. Do you need to comment on everything? You are one of the most divisive people in this city. You have blasted our new councilmen, time and time again. You support the Beall's that many in this city DO NOT support. They are the ones that have brought bad politics and the CAPO mess to our city. Do you know how much money the Beall's have taken away from our kids in CAPO? $200,000+. We stand to lose millions more with the Fleming lawsuit. Thank you Mr. Mayor, Tony Beall.

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April Josephson

4:20 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

JD, thanks for asking. I post when I feel it's appropriate to exercise my freedom of speech—as everyone does. I support what I believe will keep RSM special. I post in my own name on many topics, some political, others not. My opinions are based on facts, not mythical information posted by anonymous bloggers. If I feel strongly someone is falsely disparaging someone else or our city, I will speak up.

I notice this is your first post, and in the vein of other first timers that have done so to stir up their political agenda. Why do facts bother you to the point that you have to post false information?

I do support Mayor Beall, even when I don't agree with him. It's because IMO he does the right thing for the right reason. Although off-topic, since misinformation continues about Mayor Beall and CUSD, here are a few facts:

1. Mayor Beall's efforts protected millions of Mello-Roos tax dollars paid by RSM residents that CUSD eventually admitted to diverting to pay for its new administration building in San Juan, and leading to CUSD confirming they'd no longer do so.

2. Mayor Beall never took any money from the school district—he refused to do so. Here's a link to the facts: http://www.cusdreform.com/page68/page63/page63.html

3. Mayor Beall played a key role in preventing overcrowding at Arroyo Vista school. His efforts led to a student population cap of 1,050, rather than 1,500, as CUSD wanted, protecting the children and RSM residents from overcrowding and gridlock.

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Judy

8:23 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

April & JD, are there non-incumbents that you would vote for? Who?

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Marilyn P.

12:31 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Judy, do we even know for sure which non-incumbents are planning to run for city council? It's safe to guess that Larry McCook and Glenn Acosta are running. Larry McCook seems like a nice enough person, but I don't think he's the right man for the job.

I'm guessing that Kenny Hrabik and Peter Whittingham are planning on running, but after their slurs against the business climate in RSM and the proposal of their so-called "Bill of Rights" at the last City Council meeting, it's very obvious that neither of them has the city's best interests at heart, so they're definitely not the ones for the job. Can you imagine having either one of them making decisions on our behalf?

I was a big Brad Mcgirr supporter during the appointment process last spring, and I would still vote for him, but I don't know if he's running or not. If he does run, he'll be my first choice.

Besides that, what other non-incumbents are there who might be interested? I would vote for people who have proven their dedication to the city.

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April Josephson

1:03 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Marilyn's last sentence says it all. "I would vote for people who have proven their dedication to the city."

For the old Borders location, I would support another bookstore, a non-redundant shopping use or a place for teens to gather that won't bring a bad element.

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April Josephson

5:15 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

LOL. Can we talk about restaurants and shopping again?

RSM5kids

6:56 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

I like the idea of a sporting goods store. Something like Dick's, with indoor ski lessons?

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JD

12:01 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Ms. April. Thanks for the information. It seem this information was created by the group Tony started. I don't feel it is 100% correct. Tony did take close to $200,000 for his name being on a list. Where are the damages? This money was from an insurance company for the school district. His elected friends approved this settlement. I wonder how much money the district will now lose due to the unsubstantiated firing of James Fleming?

JD Smith - RSM Resident since 1995

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April Josephson

7:37 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

JD, again, I don't see the relevance of your post to the article. If you have questions, which are based on the misinformation you choose to continue to spread, why aren't you posting them on a relevant story?

As you no doubt are aware, everything is public information, which you could easily obtain from the source. Obviously, the facts don't suit your purpose for posting.

To dispel more of the myths you perpetuate, briefly, here are facts:
- Mayor Beall was one of about 16 plaintiffs in a lawsuit which was brought against Fleming, his assistant superintendent and the trustees who worked with them for years.
- The suit sought to hold them accountable for numerous violations of the plaintiffs' civil rights and their right to privacy.
- The total settlement of less than $200,000 was distributed among all 16 or so plaintiffs—not paid to the Mayor.
- Mayor Beall's name was not on a list.
- Illegal actions occurred. That was not contested by the defendants.
- Fleming was not fired. He resigned.

For those interested in the facts, see http://www.cusdreform.com/page68/page63/page63.html

For those interested in finding a good tenant for the old Borders location, what do you say we start contacting businesses we'd like to see there?

Marilyn P.

1:29 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

My first choice for the Border's location: another book store.

Other choices for the same location; Whole Foods, Home Goods, a sporting goods store that has more selection than Big 5, Nordstrom Rack.

Activities I'd like to see for entertainment for kids and adults (either in the Borders location or elsewhere): Bowling alley, laser tag, skate rink.

Needed somewhere in RSM: Costco.

I wish we had more "pedestrian friendly" shopping/eating areas, something like the small area between Tutto Fresco and the theater -but larger - so that people can walk around, talk, eat, and shop without having to keep getting in and out of their cars.
All our shopping centers have the parking lots in the middle and the shops around the parking so that it's hard to walk from one store to another (think getting from Target to Big 5 or Trader Joe's). Actually, I think if most people want to get from Target to Trader Joe's, they probably get in the car and drive across the parking lot. We should have planned the stores and restaurants to be in the middle all together (with the parking lots surrounding them) so that people don't have to walk across the parking lots to get from one store to another. Hopefully the Chiquita Ridge area will be developed to be more pedestrian friendly.

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Stamper

4:53 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Do you really think we might get a Costco in RSM? That would be great.

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Lisa Reutzel

11:52 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I really can't picture wanting anything in the old Border's store other than another bookstore. There is absolutely nowhere to buy books around here anymore. It's basically a 25-30 minute drive to the nearest bookstore. That's worse than what we had to endure when we lived in the Inland Empire, where everything is very spread out and inconvenient. Really, I can find just about everything else I need here in RSM.

However, I would much rather see an independent bookstore than a B&N, and I worked for B&N for 5 years. B&N put itself up for sale last year and their stock prices are quite low. I don't think they are doing much better than Borders was. I don't really think e-books are going to completely put brick-and-mortar bookstores out of business, but I do think we may be witnessing the end of the mega-bookstore chains and a return to more personalized independent booksellers. As a writer and avid reader, I certainly hope so at least.

The Borders in RSM did well, as evidenced by the fact that it survived the first round of closures. All of the stores that were not making a good profit were closed at that time. The RSM Borders would have survived if the company had not gone under. This bodes well for another bookstore. Obviously, there is a market for a brick-and-mortar bookstore here. I really hope someone steps up and does something like what Ann Patchet did in Tennessee.

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JMH

9:02 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Please no Costco in Chiquita Ridge. That area is residential and the traffic would alter the entire character of the residential community. If we need a Costco, it should be in an existing area already zoned for commercial.

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Jen

11:38 am on Monday, February 20, 2012

NOOOOO WALMART!!!! YUCK. Barnes & Noble would br great, we NEED a bookstore. Costco sounds nice but the traffic would be terrible, I will drive the extra 10-15 minutes to Cabot. Nordstrom Rack would be amazing. BETTER SHOPPING.

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