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Capo Task Force to Examine Student Safety

At a forum with parents on Thursday, Superintendent Joe Farley said he would create a task force to examine security at the Capistrano Unified School District schools and create a game plan going forward.

Joe Farley sat on a stage Thursday night and made one of the most important commitments of his three-year reign as the superintendent of Capistrano Unified School District.

Responding to a man in the audience who articulated what he wanted to come from the forum of about 90 parents in the theater at Dana Hills High, Farley committed to forming a security task force and a plan to make local schools safer.

"Any question or any concern is fair," Farley said at the outset seated alongside moderator Rich Hayward, president of the Dana Hills' Dolphin Force Foundation.

After being lobbed a question about security in light of the Newtown, Conn., mass shooting last month, it was obvious the audience wanted to seize the opportunity to expand on Farley's comments.

They expressed concern about the lack of good, or adequate, fencing at some schools (there are seven in the district that have no fencing). They expressed dismay that Orange County Sheriff Deputies weren't present on every campus. They expressed a strong desire for preventative action rather than post-incident reaction.

"My sense is that they're representative of the community," Farley said afterward of the audience. "I think it was good input, a good reminder to me of how this issue resonates with parents."

The audience learned it costs $200,000 for the district to hire a police officer, which prompted an idea: Hire private security for cheaper. Some suggested that the police officers at the district's disposal commit to showing up at each school every day in an effort to create a "hardened target" instead of a soft one.

The audience fired off concerns and suggestions, such as giving school receptionists hidden buttons to alert 9-1-1, kind of like bank teller, and fencing schools where it currently doesn't exist, and fix faulty fencing where it does exist.

One person even floated the idea of asking teachers or other school personnel if they were qualified to carry guns and how they felt about doing so on campus and to forget about posting signs that alert people to the "no gun zones." A woman suggested asking parents for $10 per month to pay for additional security, that parents in Newtown would today have gladly paid $100. Another suggested having visitors on campus buzzed in through a locked door.

"You have to keep expectations realistic," said Tim Roberts, who has a 5-year-old who attends John Malcom Elementary and would like the district to create a security roadmap for six months from now, one year from now, five years from now.

"I heard a lot of things about 'We're looking into this, we're talking about that, we hope to have that in place,' " Roberts said. "What I would ask from the school district is a definitive plan ... (of) what we can do before the fall semester starts, with whatever budget we have available, what ways parents can contribute to helping security, so that something more definitive comes out of this than just some good ideas thrown around."

Farley said it was an excellent suggestion.

"I think for the most part we've done as much as we could up to a point. ... these are some of the things we're going to do and when and how they're going to be funded," Farley said. "The bottom line, as a community you need to know we're taking this seriously and we're taking your concerns seriously. ... We'll quickly form a group to wrestle with this and come up with specific recommendations."

Roberts, who has a background in project management, said he appreciated the response.

"You have to create a plan," he said. "You have resources, timelines. This gentleman (in the front row) wants the superintendent to ask the cops to come to the schools. You can do that tomorrow, but it's not going to change anything. You can't fence your schools by tomorrow—maybe that's part of the 1-year plan or 2-year plan. 

"These people wanted to vent, to have their ideas out there. Maybe there were 15 ideas today. I want a task force that evaluates 300 ideas. We've got to, as a group, think of this collectively and solve the problem with the resources that we have."

Farley said he envisions a 10- to 15-member task force that encompasses "elementary, middle and high schools, administration, community, law enforcement, individuals with expertise in safety and prevention chaired by a very strong facilitator."

"I would hope we would be able to convene something and do an assessment of current conditions across all of our schools and come up with a really specific timeline to address deficiencies that are identified between now and the opening of school in the fall," Farley said.

Although discussion often focused on what might happen down the road, Farley began the night explaining each school in the district has an emergency response plan updated every year that examines lockdown and evacuation procedures; that school principals and the seven fulltime deputies who work with the district go through emergency simulations, including those that might include a gunman; and four additional deputies on a "Smart Team" respond to any perceived threat.

But Farley conceded "if someone wants to get into a campus they're going to get into a campus; it's a reality of the culture we live in."

"The thing we can do as a school (is) prepare for an emergency," Farley said. "There is a proposal by a San Juan Capistrano City Councilman to give every teacher a firearm (but) we can't have our schools be armed to that ridiculous degree."

He said the district was in the process of purchasing a device for each of its approximate 8,000 doors so they can be locked from the inside, and will revisit the badges and security clearances for being on campus.

Although scheduled for an hour, the discussion lasted about 84 minutes. In addition to school security, Farley explained "Common Core" to the parents (it's the development of critical and analytic thinking that probably won't be fully rolled out until 2016), that aging facilities have taken a beating in the budget, that the prediction for the school budget next year is that it will not be as bad as this year. 

"We've cut over $100 million from the budget ... as a system we're limping along," Farley said. "This is the worst it's been.

Shripathi Kamath January 11, 2013 at 08:44 PM
'One person even floated the idea of asking teachers or other school personnel if they were qualified to carry guns and how they felt about doing so on campus and to forget about posting signs that alert people to the "no gun zones." ' Was there a response to that, Martin? Especially in light of "There is a proposal by a San Juan Capistrano City Councilman to give every teacher a firearm (but) we can't have our schools be armed to that ridiculous degree." (Wonder who that councilman was, hmmm. Jenna moved to Santa Monica, otherwise we could find out) Some nice suggestions it'd seem, and I appreciate the realistic expectations of Tim Roberts. It's good to see the district interacting with concerned parents. This one was a bit amusing, though: "The audience learned it costs $200,000 for the district to hire a police officer, which prompted an idea: Hire private security for cheaper." If things cost too much, simply get something cheaper. As long as we don't get this (http://bit.ly/RKwEnk) we should be OK.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) January 11, 2013 at 09:41 PM
http://sanjuancapistrano.patch.com/articles/sjc-councilman-reeve-wants-teachers-to-arm-themselves
John Webb January 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM
I recently wrote a blog suggesting we hire retired police officers. The cost would not be $200,000 because they would be supplementing their retirement pay. There would be no need for benefits. Security Guards are a terrible idea, shootings are the last thing we want. Hire people with experience dealing with troubled people and reduce the shootings. There may not be enough retired police officers who would do the job, but it would not hurt to post a job opening in the media and review the response. This is not about guns, it is about safety.
Peter Schelden (Editor) January 11, 2013 at 11:24 PM
By the way, you can find John's gun post here: http://patch.com/B-cJYH
Martin Henderson (Editor) January 12, 2013 at 02:33 AM
No significant auditory response, but maybe a little rustling. No one else brought it up later in the forum (and there was plenty of opportunity) to show their support. As Mr. Roberts said, people seemed to just want to vent a bit. I don't normally cover SJC but I see that Penny answered your question about which councilman endorsed gun-carrying teachers (I'm not surprised -- Penny knows everything). What other ideas should be discussed? What other options, ideas, should a task force consider?
Shripathi Kamath January 12, 2013 at 05:20 AM
Penny does know everything! Including why I named dropped her predecessor. I, on the other hand (where I still have five fingers) do not know that anything needs to be done in our schools. Then again, I am a misanthrope of sorts who goes by cold numbers. Newtown, Columbine etc. are extremely rare events. Very rare. Devastating emotionally, but far less of a problem than gun violence causes to the same population (young kids) outside of schools. Yes, I would be devastated if something like this happened to my kids, however, I am more worried about them outside school. So what should we do? Start a conversation. Which cannot start until one side acknowledges that gun control is not equivalent to coming to your homes and taking away your guns, and the other side understands that zero guns is impractical when there are 300 million guns out there. My extreme disposition to cynicism does not help. Perhaps I could blog about the Mulford Act, and its backdrop. It would not be hyper local, but it will drag the Gipper into it.
anonymous January 12, 2013 at 06:19 AM
I unfortunately missed the meeting. However, I didn't read anyone mention the root of the problem. Our children, why are children not nurtured at school more by staff and peers. If most chldren notice an outcast child they make fun of them and/or ignore and stay away. Do you really think that is what they want? No, everyone wants some kind of validation and kindness, these children are in the hands of the schools for a majority of the day, for some it is like a daily dose of poisen.. We need to nurture ALL our children.. I know of specific bullying that has had faculty and admins turn their cheek and do a bit of bullying of their own.. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!! Treat someone as you would want to be treated.. Even some parents are at fault, not just schools. Everyone could use a wake up call and lessons in how we treat each other... Why are parents so forbidden to spend time at schools, parents are asked to stay off campus if they are too present. I think parent on campus are the answers.. they could use training in kindness and spread it around.. not guns.. FAMILY, COMMUNITY, KINDNESS,,,, When a child cries out for help in any way it should be addressed not brushed off.......
Shripathi Kamath January 12, 2013 at 06:42 AM
"However, I didn't read anyone mention the root of the problem. Our children, why are children not nurtured at school more by staff and peers." You'l have to explain how Adam Lanza, home-schooled, suffered from this "root of the problem" thingy.
Martin Henderson (Editor) January 12, 2013 at 07:41 AM
Go for it, Shri. You are part of the conversation despite your cynicism; it will take all sides to converge and come up with ideas. Like Mr. Roberts said, he'd like to see the task force mull over 300 ideas and create a plan. Maybe fencing a particular school is part of the two-year plan, or the five-year plan, or not at all. The buzzer idea -- if there's only one entrance -- is kind of interesting. One of the concerns is that the first line of defense for a school is usually a couple of ladies answering the telephone; get past them and you have open access (that's where the 911 button came from, i.e, bank tellers). Ideas, people, ideas.
Michelle Pike January 12, 2013 at 05:01 PM
All schools need to be have the same level of security, in all areas of the school. If anyone knows differently, please let me know, but I think that Capo High School is the only school that has a parking lot that is not visible by the street or by the school. There are many students who park in the "lower" lot on a daily basis with no type of security, either by security cameras (the two in the lot are not working) or security patrol. The idea of that many kids being in an area that cannot be seen by the school or street scares the hell out of me. Also a note about putting locks on all of the doors, that is a great idea only if the doors are not left propped open. During my time as an elementary mom volunteering at the school they had a great system of locks on all exterior doors, but they were propped open by teachers most of the time. Hopefully a new system would have a master control area which could show that all doors are shut, locked and secure, or show an alert on doors that are not shut and locked.
fact checker January 12, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Locked doors are common at most schools. However they also lock out the students who are traveling to the restroom during class. Security has been addressed for many years at every school that I know. The problem, as I see it, is a societal problem. No school will ever be able to keep out a madman determined to get in. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. But there is no easy solution and there is no one size fits all solution.
Yeparoo January 12, 2013 at 07:10 PM
It seems as if Anon is referring to bullying. Lanza was probably more of a mental/pharmacological issue. Both areas, as we'll as many others, need to be addressed. I question just how much responsibility can be put on schools.
Shripathi Kamath January 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM
The one entrance idea is fine as long as we have means for preventing unsavory characters from entering *and* allowing law enforcement other means of entering. Because one entrance in, also means just one exit out. I was part of a conversation when a constitutional law professor was posing the question of armed guards, and then had (logically) whittled it down to armed teachers. It was constructed very well, and not until a teacher spoke up did we realize the pitfalls. What he said happens is that an armed guard (or most measures), for example, will be mostly idle. It will be rare, very rare that he'll have to react to an attack. So it becomes easy for the alacrity level to drop and the guard getting caught when there is that rare attack. Then, as budget crunches hits schools, some clever soul thinks of other tasks. This obviously results in mission creep. You know, stop bullying, watch kids running in the hallways, for example. Next thing you know, we have a shooting: "I now know it was a hall pass, your honor, but it looked like a knife, and my training took over" Granted, the teacher argued, that such is a rare, but *still more likely* than a Columbine. It is good that Mr. Roberts drove home the importance of a pragmatic plan. It is easy to spend monies way in excess of the demands of the risk. At least this way, we can hope to not be too frivolous.
Shripathi Kamath January 13, 2013 at 12:05 AM
I suppose that is a fair point. Addressing bullying will go towards addressing one cause of such incidents. I also agree that it might be overburdening the school administrators to make them chiefly responsible for solving it at a sociological level. Besides, I do think that such efforts are being undertaken with increasing frequency these days.
anonymous January 16, 2013 at 05:50 PM
In regards to the boy who did the shooting, he was a student!, (did anyone hear the interview of other students explaining their version of his personality at school ,during school, and they interviewed two school friends, from that I take he wasn't home schooled the whole time, he had been a student as well, which apparently was not working out) at least that is what interviews stated, he may have had some homeschooling, but the damage to his ego was probably done at school up to or during those crucial ages 10-12, and since schools or staff are not trained or have the time for these kind of children with these needs, the mom most likely opted to home school rest of his years at school.. Children form their path in life and form their true personalities between age 10-13. These are crucial nurturing times of their life, not a time to be yelled at, verbally abused, or emotionally abandoned. The children who are on a daily basis at school be afflicted with such damaging care, sooner or later will vent. These children need to be identified during this time as a child of concern or not. Then given the proper education and medical care.
anonymous January 16, 2013 at 05:51 PM
The other problem, is the food industry, some children are dearly effected by the poisons in our foods such as modified food, dyes, and pesticides.. ALL this is the cause. Throwing these kind of children away is not the answer, nurturing, understanding and truly helping them. The medical field is at fault here as well, this is such area we need to tread carefully with. I know children who are being medicated at these fragile ages and are doing crazy outburst because of the DOCTOR ordered medications. The child acts out at school and then is punished because of their reaction the the chemicals in their bodies made them do.. We need to eat healthier, nurture our children and support the school (if the school would allow us to do what we know best to do "caring for our children and get second opinions before we medicate our children, they have a imbalance in their chemistry which causing these outburst, fix with diet, not drugs and you will have a completely different child. Then they won't flip out on us.
John Miller February 08, 2013 at 05:42 PM
SO here is a suggestion. Why not provide access to firearms for the teachers the way that it was proposed at www.armtheteachers.co This make ths most sense. So far we have been dealing with incidents involving one nybag. What happens when it is more coordinated like the attacks at Beslan.

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